HOw about this fair....

http://www.canninghouse.com/

It's Sat 16th Dec £30 for a stall.

I can't make it (i don't thikj so anyway) but if anyone is game the deadloine for contacting them is TODAY....

any takers??!

nina

Re: Meeting tonight

am looking into free copies of film - otherwise may have to get a tiny bit
of money. will confirm at next meeting - should be back for that
xx

From: "sarah toucas" <sarahcastout@hotmail.com
Reply-To: justchangelondon@googlegroups.com
To: justchangelondon@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Meeting tonight

Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:55:13 +0100


same with me, and really sorry about that here is the state of things
on my side:

-sent soap report to indian team & indian logo to publicity team

-JCFrance expanding its roots, with Louise's daughter (living in Paris)
willing to get involved: we'll write up a monthly newsletter to keep all in
the loop and are in the process of setting up a website

-would also like to get hold of a copy of Ed's documentary, please
have a good meeting sarah


From: "nina jatana" <nina.jatana@gmail.com
Reply-To: justchangelondon@googlegroups.com
To: justchangelondon@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Meeting tonight
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:37:31 +0000

i shan't be coming tonight as have deadlines and family stuff so please

do send my apologies.

cheers.


P.s can you ask a question on my behalf - how do i go about getting hold of a copy of the dvd i would like to show it to nef staff.

take
care,
n


On 11/29/06, Lucy Horitz <lucy_horitz@hotmail.com wrote:


Don't forget, JC meeting tonight at Urban Forum, 70 Cowcross Street,
London.

Note earlier meeting time of 6.00 for 6.30.


Updtaed agenda attached.


Lucy

Re: Fwd: Fair trade fair

Agreed, go for the networking. From my experience, this event is more aimed at fairtrade companies that are fairly well established and catering for the 'luxury' end. the stall costs are high but not especially unusual for where it is held - central hall rent for 3 days wouold be about £30,000 - any less and Benny would have to get funding and he probably can't be bothered as this has been running for about 20 years and he knows he can fill it. unfortunately that means its self selecting but i don't think we're wanting the high-end one off purchasers anyway. event also has a heavy element of christmas fare about it.

On the up side, Benny is one of the original fairtrade pioneers and undoubtedly knows a lot of people. similarly, there will be plenty of stallholders there who could be useful source of info on marketing techniques and audiences.

hope that's useful
dave

Sven Desai <sven.desai@googlemail.com> wrote:

Further to the note earlier, this is where this conversation is now.

£250 for a stall + VAT and cost or two is £300-350

If we make a pound on a bag of 80 that's 10 boxes a day to break even.

I think paying for a stall would be risky, but its probably worth going and seeing what people are up to.

Yours
Sven

Bank details

For anyone who needs them the bank account details are

Acc name: Just Change London

Acc no.: 65214239

Sort code: 08-92-99

Please send me an email if you make a deposit.

Yours

Sven

Re: Meeting Minutes and Agenda

One point of error in the minutes,

The email to give out for sales is NOT the googlegroups email.

As luck would have it, I have just logged on to the Just Change web mail and discovered that the
london@justchangeuk.org is live and working.

Can we on all future publicity and sales materials quote this address.

(If we give out the Google groups everyone will get sales emails - may become both annoying and confusing)

Also I cannot DVDs burned for free. Any other ideas.

Yours
Sven



On 25/11/06, Lucy Horitz <lucy_horitz@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

Please find attached and below meeting minutes from the last meeting, held on 15th November 2006 at Urban Forum offices. Thanks to Esi for doing these- please email any amendments to me.

Also attached is agenda for next meeting, to be held this Wed, 29th November, again at Urban Forum offices. Contrary to my last email, it is located at 70 Cowcross Street, not 38 as stated in my last email. The full address is:

77 Cowcross Street
London
EC1M 6EJ

Best wishes

Lucy
...............
MINUTES Just Change meeting
Wednesday 15th November 2006 6:30 - 9:00
Urban Forum 77 Cowcross Street, London, EC1M

Present: Laura Dimmock, Brenna Powys, Beccy Willett, Lizzie Hannan, Emily Joof, Sarah Toucas, Rohan Preece, Louise Ely, Esi Dadzie, Sven Desai, Mari Thekaekara, Nina Jatana
Apologises: Lucy Horitz, David Blair, Dave Tucker, Ed Owles, Lisa Cecere, Eva G.

Welcome

A New Leaf Just Change DVD an EO production viewed and well received and Ed to be congratulated on a fantastic job

1. Setting up an e-mail account for JC sales
Publicity team are working on this issue The new e-mail account will be

london@justchangeuk.org

In the meantime continue to use GOOGLE group e-mail
Uncertain who is responsible to check daily the mailbox

Action - Brenna will check the mailbox then forward orders to Sven who will forward to everyone else


2. Organising regional contacts and tea storage points in north, east, west
and south London. Posting orders is not recommended as revenue is lost
from the trading system and post can be unreliable etc.
Potential reps
South: Nina, Laura, Esi
North: Louise, Sven, Sarah
East: as yet unknown
West: as yet unkown though Beccy in terms of work is based in West Ealing/Hounslow
Rohan offered with regards to Walton on Thames area

Reps can then facilitate movement and access of tea to cover all areas within London- also cheaper.

Next shipment date 15th December important for positioning tea to reach all buyers
Louise has neighbours involved to release access to tea whilst she's out of the UK (from 29th November – mid Jan)

3. Procedure for tea sales Current tea pricing as per table is incorrect.
This is an recurring issue – who is responsible for looking into this?
Action: Mari will check current prices in India and report back

Pricing will need to be revised and accessable
Pricing listed as cost price is NOT PROFIT but does include
- cost to buy from processors,
- transportation from a) India to UK b) within UK
- insurance
The producer will receive nothing if sold at cost price so all overheads have to be highlighted to effectively cover this issue at point of sales.

Reps to explain this point to those buying tea


4. AoB
i Customer feedback
a) Taste
Some mentioned it is weak however producers responded by making it for UK palates
Suggestions to brew for longer Also for reps to highlight is good quality aromatic tea

b) Access to loose leaf As well as teabag there are requests via Manchester JC
plus others to have loose leaf tea this issue will be addressed

Action: Mari will see if it is possible to get some loose tea for us. Also Lucy please to ask the Indian women's group who buy from JC Manchester how much they need as loose leaf

c) Other products within JC range Pepper, coconut oil, soap, cloves, cinammon, dhal,
rice (though not produced by JC directly)

Request from Sarah at St Stehen's Junior School Twickenham
Receives catering size to sell tea to parents

Soap mixed reviews yet changes have been made as the colour is no longer black it now takes on a similar colour to Pears

Action - Mari requested via Sven for Sarah to write a report to Sajan regarding the additional products


ii Activity for Christmas
An issue to consider for 2007 a similar idea as the
Charities Advisory Trust gift idea,

Cafe 311 (Edmonton) using it in their fairtrade products gift hamper or Amnesty International catalogue 2006

To actively work on from summer 2007

Fair Trade Fair to take place on 8th - 10th December at Centre Hall, Parliament Square, Westminster

Action - Sven to receive e-mail sent to Nina to investigate if JC can have a stall and price to run it

Possibility volunteers available to sell tea

Louise highlighted still has banner and laminated posters used for JC stall at Camden Fair June 2006 to be collected

Action - To be discussed next meeting (Wednesday 29th November same time & venue)

iii A New Leaf
Ed has no issue with regards to copies made
Copies can be produced via Sven's friend with an industrial copier

Immediate requests from Louise and Sarah for future screenings

Action - Sven will e-mail group regarding DVD copies and screening ideas anyone with feedback can direct it to him

iv It's Her Tea JC poster

A number of copies have been produced need guillotine trim and to be laminated
A poster request from Brenna

Action - Rohan to trim and laminate copies
Action - Sven has master copy

v GOOGLE Group e-mail addition request
Emily highlighted 3 names would like to be added to the list
Action - Sven make the additions on receipt of names

vi Marsh Farm visit Mari and Trisha visited 15112006 to discuss Marsh Farm's intention to create a company
Open discussions with volutneers, trustees etc, potential company structure & policies, insurance, legalities

Agreed base Marsh Farm to become a hub (tea distribution source where it will arrive)
There will be 4 London hubs (north, south, east and west) with possibly Cambridge, Norwich & Birmingham. Also there will be one accounts system as Marsh Farm's accountant will also work with JC

Action: India accounts team will forward system currently used both will be analysed to create the standardized system January is set for one day training at Marsh Farm for all with direct involvement in process

For example volunteers will be able to estimate volume required with regards to purchases from their regular customers in junction with forthcoming shipment dates

vii Pro Bono Designer from Srishti design school (India) Mari mentioned Arvind Lodaya (one of Tarqi's teacher) will now provide pro bono design and presentation work

Action - A good quality e-copy of the JC logos will be sent to Sarah to then pass onto the publicity team plus Sven

viii Possible Cambridge Just Change group Brenna met with 3 DFTI alumni who would like to start JC group
The team has ideas yet want to have more people so she directed them to the website
There is a possibility there will be a member attending London meeting possibly Brenna herself

ix Update on Norwich's Green House

Brenna received cheque from Green House

Action - On receipt of account details cheque will be paid into account

Reps receiving tea and given funds noted by Sven

Next meeting Wednesday 29th November 2006

_________________________________________________________________

Re: Fwd: Fair trade fair

I don't know if any decision has been taken on this yet but for comparison we sold around that amount of tea at the Camden Green Fair which had around 15,000 people and the stall cost £35. Could have sold a bit more but not much.

I am not clear exactly how many people they expect to get - 3,000 stated but in an earlier email 26,000 on the database "who come year after year."

But let's go with the best possible scenario first of 26,000 potential buyers. That's nearly twice as many potential buyers as were at the Camden Green Fair.

Assume we sell at the same rate we would potentially sell 20 boxes, that's 10 boxes over break even price.

Assume we get £1 a bag of 40 (which seems to be about the price from the past) that's £10 per box and with ten boxes sold a profit if £100. If we get average £1.50 then profit £150

So we risk £300-350 for a £100 or better profit - roughly!

If the number who turn up if actually 3000 then it would be 1/5 of the Camden GF potential customers - a definate non starter I would think given the stall costs is so high.It seems a bit out or line with Fair Trade if little people like us can't get in on the act and get a low cost start.

My opinion is that it would be a good idea if JC people could check out the event this year, network with people on the stalls and have a few leaflets in their pockets if they happen to make a good connection.

Where are we with this now?

Also remember I have the display materials for the stall and am leaving for Australia on Wed so if needed please get on touch ASAP.

Louise

Re: Just Change Meeting-Nov 29th

Urban Forum is at No.77

On 23/11/06, tricia zipfel <tricia@tzipfel.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

Lucy

I am at a lecture that evening at LSE, from 6.30 - 8pm. But I will try to leave a bit early and come for the last part of the meeting since it might be good to have an update from Marsh Farm. I'll circulate a note of a recent meeting with MF, before that, so you can see how things are progressing. Did anyone volunteer to take on secretarial duties? Louise and I discussed sharing it, but I can't at the moment and it feels like something one of the DftI-ers ought to do. Hope you don't feel lumbered!

Sarah and I went to see Black Gold last weekend and knobbled Jon Snow at the end of the film. I've emailed him since and he wants to be kept in the loop, so that might come in handy. I also spoke to the film makers - but they are too rpeoccupied with their coffee campaign (understandably). There's a web site though where we could tell people about JC - they said they are getting thousands of responses to the film, so it might be worth doing. i'm not a great blogger - but will look when I get chance.............

Is UF 38 Cowcross St - I thought it was number 70.......that's what it says
on the web site as well?

tricia

Subject: Just Change Meeting

Dear all,

The next Just Change meeting will be next Wed, 29th Nov at 6.00 for a 6.30 start. The venue is the same- Urban Foum offices, at 38 Cowcross Street, in Farringdon. Unfortunately we won't be in the same luxurious room, but we are in the basement meeting room which will do the job equally well!

I will send out the agenda later tonight- please email items for the agenda to me as soon as possible.

Lucy

PS DFTI 2006ers- we have an email network with googlegroups. Please let me know whether you would like to be added to the group. All Just Change emails usually go through this group and it then enables you to email the whole group at once. Please also let me know if you don't want to receive any more Just Change emails at all.

_________________________________________________________________

Re: Re: Just Change Meeting Wed 15th Nov

On 11 Nov 2006 11:35:15 -0000, Stan Thekaekara

&lt;stan@gudalur.com wrote:



hIYA,


A BIT SLEEP DEPRIVED..LEFT OXFORD AT 5AM TO HEATHROW WITH STAN N AM NOW BACK AT M AUNTS PLACE IN MANOUR HOUSE..

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL ON WEDNESDAY..

LOVE

MARI


On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 Lucy Horitz wrote :

The venue
for Wednesday's Just Change meeting has now been confirmed as
follows:

Urban Forum offices,
70 Cowcross
Street
London
EC1M 6EJ

Multimap:


http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=prin-t&X=53-500&Y=182000&gride=531684&gridn=181813&scale=1000-0&coor-dsys=gb&amp;addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=EC1M6EJ&place=&wid-th=600-&amp;height=500&db=pc&keepicon=true


We are upstairs in the management's rooftop penthouse, so it should be very swanky!


You should report to reception at 6.30pm and we'll be shown up. The meeting will be very informal, with a short DVD on JC, some tea to buy and lots of chat. Mari will hopefully be there too, as she is in London.

Look forward to seeing you all soon.

Please try to RSVP if you haven't already.

Love


Lucy

Emails

Hey guys,

Please be careful before sending an email to the justchange google groups
email as the email goes to everyone in the group. Also, if someone sends an
email to the group and you hit 'reply', the reply then goes to the whole
group. Please make sure that if waht you want to say is to one person only,
you start a new email just to them.

Thanks, this will save everyone from having clogged up inboxes!

Lucy x